Tuesday, February 16, 2010
King Kriggle Post Class for 2/16/10
Well today was another interesting day as far as readings were considered, we got into a huge discussion about contradictions and Lyotard. I think the one thing that I keep coming back to again and again from this day of learning is the fact that one of the main things Lyotard seemed to be doing was distinguishing the post-modern from the modern and classicism stages. I think he was doing this because he wanted to get a running definition of what he was talking about. This has been the case with a lot of the theorists that we have worked with, but at the end of the day I still have to ask why things such as this must be defined in a manner that they cannot be thought about in an abstract way anymore. I mean it was definitely at least nice to see the french opening up their boundaries with the architecture that was shown to us by Dr. Casey in the post-modern sense. That seemed to be an example of people trying to look outside the box. It was just very hard to focus on all of the different things that Lyotard was trying to say, in fact it has really changed my mind about CMC as a whole, i cant say in a completely good way, but i am enlightened to say the least. I understand what he was trying to say about basically needing to keep some form of a public sphere or discourse about art, but it really did not require that many odd ways and different odd expressions in it. I really do believe that there should be a gap in media such as movies and art and drama and television shows. Yet at the same time i still do believe there just needs to be mindless entertainment like COPS where we can just sit down and laugh and not have to be involved. I mean yes, i do understand Habermas and this french dude, but at the same time i dont think they had must see tv!
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I must say I agree with you that most of the readings we have are very lets say elaborate to make a point which could have been made much faster or in a simpler way. But I would like to point out that that's a very french thing to do. At school, we are taught to develop our thoughts in essays to the max extend. Even when you have nothing else to say, we have to keep writing...It's obnoxious because it always made me feel like most of my papers were full of irrelevant stuff. But I guess this is why all these guys go on and on about there ideas. Also the fact that it is a translation does not help. It leaves room for much confusion and error.
ReplyDeleteOn an other note, I don't think that french dude would disagree that mindless entertainment shouldn't exist or that he is criticizing it. I think he just does not care to discuss it because it does not fall into what he is looking at. Moreover, we don't really have those kind of shows and stuff so it probably did not even cross his mind to speak of it. It's cultural I suppose...